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now you're electrifying hosts of

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exploring the bazaar

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wow tim look at all those fabulous gold

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trinkets

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oh they must be worth thousands of

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oh tim they're not trinkets and they're

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worth

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millions and millions not mere thousands

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of dollars

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some of them are impressive statues that

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it's it's obvious that the cave were in

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was once their headquarters while on

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earth

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well look there's even strange writings

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all over the cave walls that

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they're impossible to read i would guess

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that these descriptions

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describe where the aliens are from and

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why they came to earth

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that would be my main guess it's almost

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like they

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could be real and could come to life at

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well okay tim i

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i think i see one of the moving now so

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let's put the gold statues down and head

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back to the kcr

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studios in las vegas before those pesky

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ets decide to take us hostage

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they could easily crush us with their

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weight

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i still want to take back one of those

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little statues it would make us

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millionaires almost as much as we make

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money from our shows

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oh no no okay don't take too many and

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let's go oh stuff went in your pocket

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before no

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oh boy they're pretty heavy aren't they

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yeah they are

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don't you boy look at that you think

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that's real gold

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uh brass i think ah

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you know yeah you don't believe in

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anything

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we'll have to melt it down and find out

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well you know i'm

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happier than usual to be on because i

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spent my birthday in the hospital

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now isn't that isn't that a kicker

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instead of going out and

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partying i was uh hooked up to all kinds

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highly technical monitors and and so

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had a terrible a breathing problem and

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they almost couldn't find me here

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because of the massive amount of

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construction going on

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in my neighborhood and all the um

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building numbers are covered up by

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scaffolding and stuff like that but uh

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as you can tell i'm breathing i'm back

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to my what they call

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baseline do you know what that means no

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your baseline is how shitty you normally

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feel but not beyond that

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ah okay yeah yeah so i'm back to my

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baseline just feeling

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pretty cruddy but uh not as bad as uh

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at nyu but they do have a wonderful

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except for their housekeeping they

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their the little room i was in looked

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almost like an annex to my apartment

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anyway enough of this uh idol idol

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chatter i'm back on my

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feet at least for now and in fact i'm

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maria our psychic and and penny

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the woodstock area and socrates

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oh wow and and also looking for the

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devil's den spook lights all right uh

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which we've just heard about so maybe

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we'll have a report uh

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next week uh you know jesus if anything

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happens i guess we could even do a live

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a facebook feed uh right where all our

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being chased by the spook lights there

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well happy belated birthday yeah by the

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way tim well thank you thank you

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but uh i'm with the the show and uh i

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i we have a at least i do an old friend

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neos and who i haven't heard from in a

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maybe alex has and of course antonia is

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chief investigators for the

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hispanic community south america he

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everybody in every military from chile

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and anyway it let us continue with the

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our fabulous guest for the evening it

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will be my pleasure tim well

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uh tonight uh first time guest on

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exploring bazaar really happy to have

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with us tonight and uh like to welcome

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alex kianetti now alex is a journalist

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researcher

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explorer and filmmaker and has had a

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lifelong experience in unidentified

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flying objects

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which has inspired him to research ufo

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cases

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around the world both past and present

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now alex was an original developer

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of the uh show ancient aliens

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the pilot and the first two seasons in

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which his original ideas

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based on his research helped to create

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episodes such as

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mysterious worlds where he brought for

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the first time to american audiences

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subjects such as the zone of silence in

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mexico

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the door in peru and the mystery

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of the cave of the oil birds in the

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middle library

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now kianetti was also an associate

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producer for four episodes of

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destination truth in 2009 and his

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documentaries have been broadcast

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on fox nbc a e history channel

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and other international networks now

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during the last decade

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he discovered two not one two prenatan

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cities

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in the central sierra of peru never

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previously recognized before by official

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archaeology

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uh he found exploring the chilean high

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desert he found figures and lines

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related to the nostalines now janet is

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also the author of the book

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the mystery of the uh the tious

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tio's cave and we want to

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welcome him finally to exploring the

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bazaar alex glad to have you with us

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yeah my pleasure yeah nice to meet you

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yes you know alex have you have you

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heard from

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but he's he's alive he's okay yeah

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i only call yeah he has been going his

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better now he was kind of uh disappeared

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from the war for several years

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yeah we already i did yeah we were

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concerned but yeah he's

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still around kicking around in in

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phoenix arizona

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yeah hey uh okay alex well let's start

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at the the beginning i mean okay so

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you're a a broadcaster and a journalist

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explorer and uh uh we know that but

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how did you get uh i mean how did you

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the the fringe

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uh aspect of all of this ufos and

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um ancient astronauts the hollow earth

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aliens and yeah yeah it was a long

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but i was a curious kid and i was in a

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catholic school and i didn't believe

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the priest they were teaching me and i

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escape in the class and start to listen

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library of the salish

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fathers where were you doing

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scientist but i like nature i like

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the species and and mankind and that

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rock carvings on this

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in the center of argentina and very kind

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this area now is is

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mysterious indians but also the center

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vortex of sightings of strange lights

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in in capilla del monte

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cordoba yes now would you say that you

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left behind the old eric when the 70s

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he his book chariot of the gods

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as we know how with a different name

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futuro remembrance from the future was

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the name

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kind of also help me to doubt what i was

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doubting about my uh religious education

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and marian phenomenal apparitions and

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uprising and yeah from danny can help me

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of course to to open the eyes

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in that time yeah he said kind of no no

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doubt

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and including all of the gods no matter

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he makes some kind of

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uh uh very fatal mistakes

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that the story the the

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okay that you've investigated are they

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one in the same that eric van danagan

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claims to have

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yes of course yes um yeah

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i i kind of uh i read

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the book simultaneous to be part of

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uh encounter and starting the friendship

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with

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the main characters who were related to

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the story of von daniken no i

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i am one of the line one of the last

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kind of

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uh historical survivors

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protagonist of the

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of the original story um

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when i read the book we were fascinated

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with the book the book was about sailor

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also in the spanish language but

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and that come out in 1974

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right was an important year well why

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don't why don't you tell us a little bit

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about the uh

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the legend and the story that goes with

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it because i'm sure that uh

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uh this is a whole new generation uh

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some people were not around in

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1974 when the gold of the gods came out

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why don't you briefly go over the yeah

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this is the beginning of the story yes

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and it's a trigger effect it's a domino

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effect on the consequences from

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1974 to now i am the first who brought

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the subject of the tajos to united

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states

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since i immigrate my idea since i i come

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to this country

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was led the american public to know this

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wonderful thing

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and that was already was a researcher

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but didn't

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happen my expedition that the taylor

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casuals

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have the origin of the name through

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these uh

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very exotic birds who they are also

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called oil birds who are kind of

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bad birds but they could see in the dark

340
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and they use the echo sonar

341
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and and there are sacred birds for the

342
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heballos we are in a hebrew area

343
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now called schwarz the hebrews were

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these group

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amazonian groups who lived between

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ecuador and peru

347
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and they used to shrink the heads of the

348
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visitors

349
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and oh well that's nice

350
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that's nice to do yeah that's friendly

351
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yeah yeah but i don't know anymore but

352
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this deal is

353
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is a very one of the most it's very

354
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dangerous

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unknown uncharted land too

356
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and that was also my fascination for the

357
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the forests of south america has been

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part of my life too

359
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since since pretty and i was also

360
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interested in the life of percy fawcett

361
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and the lost city of sea and all these

362
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stories connect

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yeah and all the search connect and

364
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the mysterious andes and the eyebrow of

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the jungle connecting

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ecuador with brazil and peru was the

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epicenter of

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in the 80s but again the cave of stages

369
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was discovered in 1900 but until

370
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then he can publish the book nobody

371
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knows about this

372
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i know he put the cave in the map in

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1974.

374
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i put the game in the map when i did the

375
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episode of ancient aliens

376
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10 years ago but they and

377
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nobody already know in in america and

378
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also the rest of the war about

379
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this wonderful cave and there are two

380
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things

381
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connected with the caves two is a kind

382
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of it's an underground kind of a

383
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structure when you found

384
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some geological anomalies who led

385
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us to think was a very advanced

386
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megalithic

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construction kind of thousand thousand

388
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years ago before the incas

389
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praying a civilization uh civilization

390
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could reign all that area

391
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and they really

392
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they were very advanced in the in the

393
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building and moving

394
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rocks and when i saw the

395
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these first pictures of of the rocks

396
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coming from the expedition of 69 and 76

397
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i said this

398
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this i have to go with this we have to

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prove

400
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was an underground civilization the

401
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:12,000
second story was

402
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a legend of a golden library a metal

403
00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:17,199
library

404
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a lost remnants of

405
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a civilization before the flood who left

406
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bibliotheque this kind of library in the

407
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in the bottom

408
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in the center of the earth we know this

409
00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:37,200
there there were many legends of lost

410
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libraries in the mediterranean

411
00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:43,280
in asia yeah including in america but

412
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many

413
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in south america too in the andes and we

414
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know kind of the andes is

415
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one of the ancient cultures the imara

416
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indians

417
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and the princes who were kind of

418
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[Music]

419
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reigning in this years

420
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maybe in the same time one of the mayans

421
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and the same plane of the egyptians

422
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no yes okay well alex during one of the

423
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expeditions here

424
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didn't one of the astronauts was it

425
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:15,360
edgar mitchell that went on the uh

426
00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,799
no no no no mitchell unfortunately

427
00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:20,480
i never have the chance to bring the

428
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:22,320
subject to mitchell but it was neil

429
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:23,760
armstrong

430
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also the the presence of neil after

431
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:30,880
had been one of the privilege

432
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axes of the the interesting of the

433
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american public

434
00:18:40,630 --> 00:18:38,480
that was always my also my hook when i

435
00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:40,640
introduced the story

436
00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:44,160
uh to the u.s kind of

437
00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:49,200
uh audiences lynn astron was brought

438
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,039
by stanley hall stanley hall was

439
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a young in that time he was a young

440
00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:57,440
scottish

441
00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:00,960
yeah and a scat engineer

442
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:04,480
who his fascination was when he read

443
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:07,919
the call of the gods and he said i have

444
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:10,559
a few years after the publishing they

445
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:13,039
said i have to design an expedition to

446
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,240
go there

447
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:16,320
but the world doesn't know anything

448
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:18,640
about that only the latin war

449
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,600
no but the case were kind of

450
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:23,039
rediscovered by

451
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:26,080
a hungarian argentinian explorer his

452
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:26,640
name was

453
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,520
janos morix and janos morix is a

454
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,160
fascinating kind of character in my book

455
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:34,000
mystery of statuescapes

456
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,039
i die by dick in his life i

457
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,520
construct all his life before his

458
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:40,799
immigration he was

459
00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:43,840
in the second world war he was connected

460
00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,320
with

461
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:47,039
hermetic uh societies he was connected

462
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:48,000
with the nazis

463
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:52,080
and was a very interesting character

464
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:56,240
on morix when he arrived he met another

465
00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:59,280
person who was interested in this kind

466
00:20:03,110 --> 00:19:59,600
of

467
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:03,120
subject but his focus was

468
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:06,960
i want to discover the underground wars

469
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,679
he came with the idea he came with the

470
00:20:13,870 --> 00:20:11,120
concept that

471
00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,880
under the andes was an advanced

472
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:15,440
civilization

473
00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:18,159
who were running around long tunnels

474
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:18,720
from

475
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:22,080
tierra del fuego to alaska

476
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:26,000
and he said i walk i walk

477
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:29,360
hundreds thousands of miles i

478
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:32,640
come in one entrance and i exit

479
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:36,159
and another one and it's it's funny what

480
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:39,840
is the former president of uh

481
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:42,880
of peru fujimori he said the same

482
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,440
i entered the idea do you believe that

483
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:50,400
i believe i believe in uh and the

484
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,000
stories of morix yes

485
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,840
he was very yeah that he that he i know

486
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:55,679
i believe that's why there are tunnels

487
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:58,240
yes there are advanced animals yes

488
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:01,360
there are when you saw the structures

489
00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:04,559
on when you see the attaches

490
00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:08,159
kind of geology you you cannot

491
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:10,960
explain that as a natural formation when

492
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:11,520
you see

493
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:14,559
two corner stones holding

494
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a big kind of

495
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:21,440
block similar to the balbic blocks

496
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,120
who weights 500 towns

497
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:27,200
you cannot really when when you see all

498
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:28,559
this kind of

499
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,240
very polishing ducts

500
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,320
you you feel you are kind of in a

501
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,919
nuclear atomic shelter

502
00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:38,480
and it's when you find some kind of

503
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:40,640
precision cutting on rocks

504
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:44,799
with stairs and pyramidal forms

505
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,789
a construction it's a technology

506
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:54,480
underground

507
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now what did you what did you actually

508
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:58,640
see

509
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:01,840
well i found the exactly

510
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:04,559
position of that picture of the

511
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,120
cornerstone who proves

512
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:09,919
in many degrees was in an architecture

513
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:12,559
was a kind of a construction design

514
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:15,600
you would not have kind of an entrance

515
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,400
it's called used to be called the

516
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fondant gate

517
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,320
now it's called the morris gate and it's

518
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one of the first attractions in the cave

519
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,600
of titus

520
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:28,240
but the caves are there are hundreds of

521
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:29,440
caves

522
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:32,799
but in in 1969

523
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:35,840
this hungarian make an expedition

524
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,200
with the equatorial government

525
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:41,679
and the military and it was the first

526
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,400
time with

527
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:45,440
this this kind of

528
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:49,120
team and crew of explorers descend to

529
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,320
the cave

530
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,159
that was the same and it's a funny scene

531
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:54,720
they descend the same time

532
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,159
the men armstrong and collins and alden

533
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:00,000
were descending on the moon

534
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:03,280
in august of 69 at the same time and the

535
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:04,080
funny thing

536
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:08,240
morix said as a prophecy as an omen

537
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:11,039
and i have this recorded in video to one

538
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:12,640
of the guides

539
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,679
he said the people who are now

540
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,320
what they were in the cave and the the

541
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:20,320
shining of the full moon was coming

542
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,039
entrancing

543
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:24,000
through the through the main kind of uh

544
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:24,960
hole

545
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,799
and the the case of tajos of the quangos

546
00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:29,760
river

547
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,520
is the only one who you have to descend

548
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:34,559
through this shaft

549
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:38,000
it's only here because we have to go to

550
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:39,520
our bottom of the hour break when we

551
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:40,000
come back

552
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:50,559
more exploring the bazaar so stay tuned

553
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:53,679
now back to exploring the bazaar

554
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:55,760
with two of the most electrifying

555
00:24:02,830 --> 00:23:57,760
researchers in the paranormal

556
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,840
your hosts timothy beckley and tim

557
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,039
schwartz

558
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:06,960
welcome back to exploring the bazaar i'm

559
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:08,240
tim schwartz tonight

560
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:11,520
our guest is alex keaney and uh

561
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,840
alex i i want to bring up into our

562
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,279
conversation

563
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:18,000
uh you mentioned the the middle library

564
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,400
but

565
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:21,039
uh uh why don't we talk a little bit

566
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:22,320
about the uh

567
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:25,360
the italian priest uh who uh who was

568
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:26,640
involved uh with

569
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:30,159
uh uh uh i guess collecting the

570
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,600
the the middle library yes well

571
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,320
yeah the father crispy is part of the

572
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,480
second kind of a big

573
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:40,799
axis of the story and the attraction not

574
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:42,320
only neil armstrong

575
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,960
let me finish with anil astron i said

576
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,400
well morix said

577
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,000
the people who are walking in the moon

578
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:50,000
they are going to be in this cave in the

579
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:51,600
future he said

580
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:54,799
and seven years later stanley hall but

581
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,840
he have uh

582
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:58,000
he was very scotty and an armstrong come

583
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,159
from scottish blood

584
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,039
he choose him as the godfather of the

585
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:05,520
expedition was not any relation with the

586
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:08,960
mormon no relation with the masons

587
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:10,960
armstrong was neither mormon either

588
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,960
mason but there are so many legends all

589
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:14,159
the charlatans

590
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:17,760
in in in the web they really kind of

591
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,120
uh yeah affect all

592
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,840
all the image of armstrong and that's

593
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:25,760
our national hero

594
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,240
and i interview i had been friends with

595
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:30,159
the family of nilftern

596
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:33,440
for many years and the recent years

597
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:36,960
and and i i tried to reconstruct

598
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:40,640
but neil went as an attraction to

599
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:41,600
explore the

600
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:44,559
the inner world and he he was fascinated

601
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,520
he said

602
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,679
the taser cables is so fascinating as

603
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:49,200
the moon i have so

604
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,400
great time here was

605
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:55,520
whole brought him also yes publicity

606
00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:56,000
stunt

607
00:26:02,310 --> 00:25:59,279
no but the idea of

608
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,320
stanley hall was take over also with the

609
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,559
help of the british government

610
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,200
uh to resolve the mystery or to take

611
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:08,720
over the

612
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:12,320
the remains the golden kind of tablets

613
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:15,440
he always denies but he organized in

614
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,240
less than

615
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,080
six months he organized he get the

616
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:20,559
attraction of the best scientists

617
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,440
he has the support of all the military

618
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:24,960
forces from the scotland

619
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:28,559
of the uk including the gurkhas and

620
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,679
and suddenly what with the the green

621
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,760
light of the equatorial and

622
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,240
archaeologists they did one of the

623
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:39,440
one of the longest and the more

624
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:43,279
bigger kind of expedition in history of

625
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:43,919
capes

626
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,120
was the taj escape and was not the the

627
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:49,679
only the anomalies in the geology

628
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,360
and all the lore but the

629
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:56,640
the treasure of the lost mankinds

630
00:27:03,350 --> 00:26:59,760
that was the innocent and it's we have

631
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,360
to see this was in 1976 you know

632
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:06,480
and seven years after them

633
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:10,000
the man the first man was on the moon

634
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:13,039
and our concept of the the universe

635
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,480
also was trying to resolve many

636
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:17,039
archaeological

637
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:20,000
riddles and for many years we didn't

638
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:21,520
discover

639
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:24,960
new new kind of clues the incas didn't

640
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:25,279
leave

641
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,919
any writing you could see there were so

642
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,240
advanced civilizations and didn't leave

643
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:33,039
any kind of only this hanging piece of

644
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,080
wool

645
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:36,960
and nothing else neither the emeralds

646
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:37,600
and

647
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,399
to decode that civilization is it's more

648
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,320
difficult than decoded mayans and

649
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:43,440
egyptians who

650
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:47,200
really they already left

651
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,919
a lot of decoding through their

652
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:51,520
geographical

653
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,360
or glyphosate writings but

654
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,159
the incas didn't leave anything and we

655
00:28:03,750 --> 00:27:59,840
have this

656
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,760
that was the the interesting of this

657
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,480
this scrolls and morix was also

658
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:07,440
connected with

659
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:11,039
my old friend julio genawado who was the

660
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:11,679
psychic

661
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:15,039
of morick so vice verse uh he was much

662
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:16,240
younger but

663
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:19,440
both were researching all these kind of

664
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:20,159
sources

665
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:23,600
and these legends and this lost

666
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:26,960
kind of uh knowledge you know and they

667
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:31,200
for for them they think many of these

668
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,240
answers were below the earth and in in

669
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:35,919
the earth

670
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:38,559
in the caves we found response but the

671
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,440
civilizations they always hide

672
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,520
many important things in the case

673
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:45,039
remember the qumran

674
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:48,320
the quran manuscripts they were in caves

675
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:49,840
and they were there are thousands of

676
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:52,399
thousands and we could reconstruct

677
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:56,320
all the ancient gnostic and christian

678
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:59,360
christianism through the congress the

679
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:00,480
same way

680
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,200
we think yeah in the end still remain in

681
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:04,960
some places that

682
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:07,520
the discovery of uh juan and julio were

683
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:08,320
important

684
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:14,789
as uh the governments of the air didn't

685
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,760
really

686
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,760
agree they're trying to get the

687
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,679
foundation they're trying to protect the

688
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:20,799
place

689
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:23,840
of kind of uh intrusions

690
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,039
but they were feeling they will kind of

691
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,080
take over and was going to be the end of

692
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:32,080
the story for both

693
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:35,600
that is the reason they never revealed

694
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:39,200
and also he went

695
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:42,399
my friend julio genawa who is in my book

696
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,120
in many episodes and many chapters

697
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,080
he was the scored of amsterdam but

698
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,399
amsterdam never asked it

699
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,480
said you could guide me but he knows he

700
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:56,159
knows what he

701
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:00,399
uh years before in 1968

702
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:03,840
him and morix uh maurice showed

703
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:07,200
that the chamber where were all these

704
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,559
hundreds of giant golden

705
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:13,679
scrolls you asked me about crispy the

706
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,480
father

707
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:16,960
chris picked up a museum in cuenca

708
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:17,919
ecuador

709
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:20,640
he was also from the solution order the

710
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,360
same

711
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,240
order i was rebellious when i was a

712
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:25,679
teenager

713
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:29,760
and i didn't accept their doctrine

714
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:32,720
but crispy was a fantastic character

715
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:35,440
where he went in his with his twenties

716
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:38,799
as a missionary but also with

717
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:41,840
the order to research

718
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:45,279
the plants the the botanic

719
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:49,600
kind of lore of the amazon and

720
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:53,840
the stories of the hebrews the life

721
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:57,279
and traditions and he was a kind of a

722
00:31:03,029 --> 00:30:59,120
renaissance man

723
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,039
and he was a pioneer in filming he was

724
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,279
the first documentary filmmaker who

725
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:08,080
recorded in 1920s

726
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:12,399
the the life of these hero indians

727
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:16,000
and and he he start he started to return

728
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,039
to italy after his mission his

729
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,000
natural science mission he remained he

730
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,399
created a school but he created a museum

731
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:26,880
and was the museum of the extraordinaire

732
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,960
destroyer he collect

733
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:31,039
the people bring for all all over his

734
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,039
town and many

735
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,240
directions of the equatorian andes and

736
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:37,679
the jungle

737
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,960
artifacts and some the artifacts were

738
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:41,919
kind of

739
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:47,679
copper and some they were solid gold

740
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,919
kind of unfortunately one of the tablets

741
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:50,880
disappear

742
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,240
and after some visitation

743
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:56,880
from some recent european researchers

744
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:57,679
and

745
00:32:01,269 --> 00:32:00,399
one have kind of geroglyphical

746
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:01,279
phoenician

747
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,279
symbols and the crispy collection have

748
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:08,000
many kind of

749
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:12,159
as we could call fraudulent peace or

750
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:12,880
hoaxes

751
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:16,480
but the people used to bring

752
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:19,519
kind of some copies

753
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,640
kind of the people in cuenca we never

754
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:24,240
identify the artist

755
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:27,120
but they used to kind of copy from books

756
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,880
of history to satisfy it

757
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:30,799
and the priest was always giving money

758
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:33,200
to to the people no matter he

759
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,399
he lives almost wearing drugs

760
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:39,600
until his last day but the museum

761
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:42,960
started to build kind of the collections

762
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:46,240
in silver and scene and the design

763
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,240
have strange writings but

764
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:52,320
the official archaeologists reject

765
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:53,519
crispy but

766
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:56,320
when you start to travel to ecuador and

767
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:56,960
research

768
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:00,960
other cultures the canary indians

769
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,080
in the areas of asua and kanyaku there

770
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:06,000
are other cantons there are other kind

771
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:07,279
of provinces

772
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:10,640
of ecuador who really again

773
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:13,279
the official university archaeologist

774
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:15,519
they abandoned for many years

775
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:19,120
you found barrier grounds with

776
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:22,399
kind of we call

777
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,470
styles or kind of inscriptions

778
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,799
and some of the descriptions we found

779
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:33,840
kind of

780
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:38,320
again mediterranean alphabetic

781
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:41,840
kind of abc

782
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:45,120
letters symbols

783
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:48,000
the presence of sculpture of animals as

784
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:48,799
the elephant

785
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,039
americas

786
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,480
yeah and well they must well

787
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,720
is there is there any interpretation is

788
00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:00,399
there any interpretation though i mean

789
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:01,360
is there a

790
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:04,960
an actual text no

791
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,560
unfortunately the nobody couldn't decode

792
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,879
putting together i have a friend manuel

793
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:11,839
palacios who

794
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:14,960
who was also he's he has been

795
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:18,399
following my work and i follow his word

796
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:19,359
too

797
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,280
he's a young kind of researcher

798
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:26,000
who started to try to decode some of the

799
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,679
figures but some of the figures he

800
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:28,800
decode

801
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,810
they were basing kind of a non

802
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:32,879
[Music]

803
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:36,159
true pieces of the collection kind of

804
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:40,720
the pieces but nobody found some kind of

805
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:47,750
message or some descriptive

806
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:52,399
of the of the possible

807
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:55,280
history of that civilization who left

808
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:55,520
this

809
00:35:02,790 --> 00:34:59,040
scroll we have symbols yeah we have uh

810
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,800
animals we have a pyramid with jaguars

811
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,560
with serpents

812
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:06,880
we have a kind of faces many

813
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:08,800
interpretation of the

814
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:13,920
sun and the moon we have this kind of

815
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:17,599
yeah typical

816
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:22,079
traditional daily life kind of symbols

817
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:25,800
but we found kind of

818
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:29,200
skeletons kind of drawing of

819
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:32,320
animals and this carving of animals but

820
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:32,800
we have

821
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,800
carvings

822
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,119
the stone caramels were in the caves and

823
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,079
also they were in the collection of

824
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,200
of crispy the archaeologists

825
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,079
when the central bank of ecuador and

826
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:50,720
cuenca bought the collection

827
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:55,440
they really take advantage but they were

828
00:36:02,550 --> 00:35:59,119
amazing pieces and but some

829
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,560
they rejected and they're still kind of

830
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:05,359
rotten getting rusty in some of the

831
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:06,000
rooms

832
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:09,200
mixed with mattresses and all furniture

833
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,200
and they consider they were kind of

834
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,599
again known

835
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,839
not all pieces they were contemporary

836
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:17,200
kind of artisan

837
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:21,119
art aircraft yeah kind of a popular

838
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,560
type of craft but

839
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:26,880
of course they've retained the golden

840
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:27,599
pieces

841
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:29,440
and some they were kind of golden sheet

842
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:30,640
they were giant

843
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,400
seeds with a lot of ornaments and

844
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:37,520
and figures and kind of

845
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,040
animals and humans but

846
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:44,480
nobody couldn't really follow the track

847
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,839
to do a history of that mankind we

848
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:49,200
couldn't find

849
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:52,320
a storyline to reconstruct the comic

850
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,800
book

851
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:55,200
of this prefix story or the proto

852
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,079
history

853
00:37:03,430 --> 00:36:59,119
unfortunately no as uh unfortunately

854
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,440
we as as the the contents of the library

855
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:05,440
was destroyed when

856
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:08,720
united first was a fire was kind of

857
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,839
uh and kind of a local terrorist in the

858
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:12,800
60s who

859
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,839
burned the school he lost all crespi

860
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,119
loss of his

861
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,359
cinematic with he all he had the

862
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:21,440
documentary unfortunate was a big crime

863
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:22,240
and

864
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:27,040
maybe it's true

865
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,839
kind of looks like there are some

866
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,240
documentations as

867
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:32,880
they were very active in that time of

868
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:33,359
the

869
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,040
cuenca

870
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,680
but coming back yeah we lost so many of

871
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:40,960
the of the pieces and

872
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,480
and crispy he was very senile with

873
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:45,760
fondant and went to

874
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:48,800
visit him and he and then he came use

875
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:51,680
all the photos of the crispy collection

876
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:52,480
to lie

877
00:37:59,069 --> 00:37:56,320
and said he was in the caves that was

878
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:59,079
i was the first who interviewed him in

879
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,240
1993

880
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:02,800
in the ancient convention and he was

881
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:03,680
very

882
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:08,079
embellish the story but the story is

883
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:11,920
was there i couldn't sell it

884
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:14,960
he was very kind of candied and

885
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:18,480
straight shoot but uh

886
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,000
but he makes that is in that uh

887
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:24,960
confusion still remain and the people

888
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,280
are

889
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,240
kind of uh saying oh the real treasure

890
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:30,640
of the tajos is the one crazy hub no

891
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:31,119
it's

892
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,280
totally two different lines of assault

893
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:37,440
well and so some of the uh some of the

894
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:38,560
sheets from uh

895
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,240
uh crispy's collection were huge like

896
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:45,599
like room size huge like they had been

897
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,760
a part of uh maybe like wall decorations

898
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,560
that had been pried off at some time

899
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,599
right yeah well like no other

900
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:58,079
as a biggest room but could be kind of

901
00:39:05,510 --> 00:38:58,960
half

902
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:05,520
yes and this and and they were some they

903
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:06,320
were there

904
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:10,720
but i descend to this kind of dungeon

905
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:13,680
with they were not too nice the

906
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:17,119
solutions they were cranky guys

907
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:20,320
and it caused me a lot of convincing

908
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,760
being ex-alumni

909
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:26,240
and and i saw they were rushed in there

910
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,079
and many of the pieces a big

911
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:30,240
chariot with wheels and the type of

912
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:33,280
assyrian babylonian type of

913
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,160
chariot was still there and helmets but

914
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,760
but they look kind of uh

915
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,760
hockey it looks like pieces of fraud

916
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:41,520
says it'll be the meal

917
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:44,480
film or some of the right the artifacts

918
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:44,880
right

919
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:48,720
but uh but they were they were i wish

920
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,119
they led me i tried to convince them so

921
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,000
you should create a little museum or

922
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,119
let the researchers to have access no

923
00:40:02,710 --> 00:39:58,800
they don't want to

924
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,720
us access i was thinking to go to see

925
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:04,319
the pope

926
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:07,040
our old friend bergoglio to see if he

927
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,440
could

928
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:10,880
really convince them so

929
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,319
i don't know well alex okay what is the

930
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,319
bottom line here though

931
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,680
are are they remnants of some

932
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:21,920
ancient alien civilization are they

933
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,920
something from the hollow earth or

934
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,119
atlantis

935
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:27,200
what take do you make on this i mean

936
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,319
what is your own

937
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:31,280
summation but i follow and respect my

938
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,160
original

939
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:34,800
explorers friends but this julio was a

940
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:35,760
good friend and

941
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,560
he was honest and he never profited with

942
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:40,240
anything and

943
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:43,920
he helped few of the the scrolls in

944
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:47,760
in a minor scale and they

945
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:51,520
they were kind of

946
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:55,200
subject of a lot of kind of polemics and

947
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:57,920
contradictions and debates

948
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:01,200
and uh i saw one of them and

949
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:04,400
i was a different of the rest

950
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:08,400
and different style and thing and

951
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:12,800
and that to remain in private hands

952
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,240
but uh i always kind of

953
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:19,440
through my friendship with him i believe

954
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,560
in the story for the evidence i

955
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,520
corroborated

956
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,000
the two lines the lines of an

957
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,160
underground civilization who could carve

958
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:30,240
with the rocks also

959
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:34,160
several miles below the earth supporting

960
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,079
the in the story of a metal library

961
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:40,079
they were as i said they were many

962
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:41,520
legends

963
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,950
and the metal is is a fine

964
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:45,440
[Music]

965
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:48,480
in gold or copper they could

966
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:51,920
resist the pass of time we have rock

967
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:56,079
stones and metal who really survive

968
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,800
the destruction of the elements as the

969
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:00,480
floods

970
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,640
or the deluge but um

971
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:07,359
the final thing is we have so much in

972
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:08,240
conclusion

973
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,839
inconclusive lines with the original

974
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,839
story but there were many parallel

975
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:15,200
stories and

976
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:18,720
there were other kind of characters

977
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:22,319
saying they were witness

978
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:26,079
and they kind of enter in this kind of

979
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:30,400
deep kind of doors and

980
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:34,000
witness similar type of treasures

981
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:43,030
yeah before the the events

982
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,400
i was narrating with juan morix and

983
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,680
angozano but it's

984
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:52,240
the unknown story of south america how

985
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:53,040
many of

986
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:56,160
these gaps when fawcett

987
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:59,200
was looking for the lost city of sea he

988
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,839
followed

989
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,400
also documents who were talking about

990
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:04,240
these megalithic

991
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:08,640
cities who have also

992
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:12,400
the properties to be illuminated

993
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:15,520
for itself that is interesting

994
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,040
but it's to illuminate a construction

995
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:21,599
underground as the stimulus the egyptian

996
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:22,160
they were

997
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,040
painting inside of the pyramid without

998
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:26,640
any source of light

999
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,480
maybe to put the connections between

1000
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:33,599
the dots and fossett who

1001
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:36,160
was a great explorer the royal society

1002
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,119
who was kind of

1003
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:40,000
also ignored he was looking for atlantis

1004
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:41,680
and he was ignored

1005
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,359
by the uh his his spouse in the

1006
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:47,920
beginning of the 1900s

1007
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:51,040
but on the 1920s after before he

1008
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:52,800
disappeared but

1009
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:56,319
and he said west of the mato grosso

1010
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,359
they were they were

1011
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,000
more legends targeting and i think that

1012
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:03,920
that escapes connect

1013
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:06,960
with the faucet search you know

1014
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:10,240
and uh and also with the search of the

1015
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:13,440
the and existing of the

1016
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:16,240
czech apollo's kingdom who was another

1017
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,880
kind of

1018
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,119
totally different culture in the middle

1019
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:21,280
of the of the andes

1020
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:24,400
we have all these kind of

1021
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:28,960
mirror cultures who support all this

1022
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,160
this theory of the work of a mega mother

1023
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:33,680
culture

1024
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:36,400
maybe ten thousand years ago or more and

1025
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:37,359
the taj escape

1026
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:40,400
is part of this kind of

1027
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:44,880
net of uh of civilizations who

1028
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:48,000
are lost in the night of times

1029
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:51,440
and we have a very little traces

1030
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:55,760
i think as the crispy collection

1031
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,839
10 percent are part of that

1032
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,920
of that culture so the indians were

1033
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,280
retrieving

1034
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:06,480
from many

1035
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:10,960
burial sites and bring it to the priests

1036
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,160
and no matter no matter the equatorial

1037
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:16,400
culture didn't give too much importance

1038
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,440
to the gold

1039
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,760
they use it only for funerary reasons

1040
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:21,599
but no not really

1041
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:25,119
as a big value of trade economical thing

1042
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:28,240
that is very interesting to see

1043
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:32,240
including the yeah the princes and

1044
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:39,670
measuring that that level

1045
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,640
but when i said mental library is not

1046
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:44,400
only

1047
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:47,839
remains of gold scrolls but there are

1048
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:51,119
and they were as the one i told you they

1049
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,480
are missing

1050
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:55,280
from that collection yes um alex uh

1051
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:56,720
unfortunately we only have about two

1052
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,359
minutes

1053
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,200
left in the show so i want to give you

1054
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,920
the chance to let our audience know

1055
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:04,480
where they can find your book and uh

1056
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:05,520
where they can find

1057
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:09,119
more about you online boys

1058
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,960
browsing my name is yeah you could

1059
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,640
contact me through facebook

1060
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:15,280
but they're still there yeah through

1061
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,720
linkedin

1062
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,960
i don't have the new wave is in

1063
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:19,760
construction

1064
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,040
right now uh the book was published by

1065
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:25,520
inner traditions bar company

1066
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:28,560
and is distributed by by them

1067
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,760
and also by simon and schuster yeah

1068
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:34,000
very very very well very well

1069
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:35,359
illustrated with lots of

1070
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:38,800
color photographs and very easy to

1071
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,240
read and most interesting alex i you

1072
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:44,480
really impressed me with your uh

1073
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,440
research on this

1074
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,720
uh and um you know i hope uh someday

1075
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,720
we'll be able to get to the bottom of

1076
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:52,800
the mystery

1077
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:55,760
yes and i'm yeah maybe the cave chaotic

1078
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,000
is

1079
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:59,280
part of extraterrestrial civilization i

1080
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:00,160
don't reject

1081
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:03,359
that consideration right anyway

1082
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,160
next week we have a very special guest

1083
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:08,720
our very own friend sean casteel

1084
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,079
who's recently just come out with the

1085
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:11,920
book ufos armageddon

1086
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,200
and biblical revelations signs symbols

1087
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,920
and wonders looking forward to talking

1088
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,119
to sean we haven't

1089
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,280
spoken with him on the air in a long

1090
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:22,800
time he doesn't do too many

1091
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,880
shows so that should be interesting tim

1092
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,160
would you say

1093
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:28,559
yep and we have to go now tim so good

1094
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:29,920
night everyone

1095
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,160
ufo mr ufo secret files on youtube

1096
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,240
you've been listening to exploring the

1097
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,599
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1098
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,319
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1099
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,839
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1100
00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:48,000
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1101
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,319
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1102
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,400
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1103
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,160
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1104
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,520
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1105
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:00,000
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1106
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,200
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1107
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:05,839
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1108
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,720
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1109
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:10,880
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1110
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,680
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1111
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:15,760
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1112
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:20,000
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